Data Openness Enquiry

Enquiry Status: Unresolved

Started: Mon Oct 12 17:08:54 2009
ID: 9f03b66d-75f3-454c-a391-234a0f439a37

Message:

To: "Josh Tauberer" <tauberer@govtrac....

Subject: Data Openness Enquiry

Date: Mon Oct 12 17:08:54 2009

Status: Sent

Dear Josh,

I am writing to you to check the legal status of your '2000 U.S. Census: 1 Billion RDF Triples' data - and to test our new 'Is it open?' service on CKAN.

I am writing to seek clarification of the 'openness' [1] of this data:

http://www.rdfabout.com/demo/census/

I wasn't able to find an explicit statement that the data was open such as a reference to an open knowledge or data license [2] so I'm writing to find out what the exact situation is. In particular we would like to know whether the material can be made available under an open license of some kind.

Thank you very much for your time and I look forward to receiving your response.

Regards,

Jonathan Gray

[1] http://www.opendefinition.org/1.0/

[2] http://www.opendefinition.org/licenses/

Sent by "Is It Open?" (http://isitopen.ckan.net/about) A service which helps scholars (and others) to request information about the status and licensing of information.

Message:

To: Is It Open Enquiry Service <isitopen@okf....

Subject: Re: Data Openness Enquiry

Date: Tue Oct 13 15:30:05 2009

Status: Response

Hey,

I've now added a note that it is CC-BY-NC-SA.

  • Josh Tauberer
  • CivicImpulse

http://razor.occams.info http://www.civicimpulse.com

"Yields falsehood when preceded by its quotation! Yields falsehood when preceded by its quotation!" Achilles to Tortoise (in "Godel, Escher, Bach" by Douglas Hofstadter)

On 10/12/2009 11:30 AM, Is It Open Enquiry Service wrote:

Dear Josh,

I am writing to you to check the legal status of your '2000 U.S. Census: 1 Billion RDF Triples' data - and to test our new 'Is it open?' service on CKAN.

I am writing to seek clarification of the 'openness' [1] of this data:

http://www.rdfabout.com/demo/census/

I wasn't able to find an explicit statement that the data was open such as a reference to an open knowledge or data license [2] so I'm writing to find out what the exact situation is. In particular we would like to know whether the material can be made available under an open license of some kind.

Thank you very much for your time and I look forward to receiving your response.

Regards,

Jonathan Gray

[1]http://www.opendefinition.org/1.0/ [2]http://www.opendefinition.org/licenses/ -- Sent by "Is It Open?" (http://isitopen.ckan.net/about) A service which helps scholars (and others) to request information about the status and licensing of information.

Message:

To: Josh Tauberer <tauberer@govtra....

Subject: Re: Data Openness Enquiry

Date: Tue Oct 13 16:17:39 2009

Status: Sent

Thanks for your reply Josh! I wonder if I could ask you what your reason is for using a non-commercial license, as opposed to a license which is open (as in opendefinition.org)?

I also wonder if you have seen the legal tools to make data open at:

http://www.opendatacommons.org/

Warm regards,

Jonathan

Hey,

I've now added a note that it is CC-BY-NC-SA.

  • Josh Tauberer
  • CivicImpulse

http://razor.occams.info http://www.civicimpulse.com

"Yields falsehood when preceded by its quotation! Yields falsehood when preceded by its quotation!" Achilles to Tortoise (in "Godel, Escher, Bach" by Douglas Hofstadter)

On 10/12/2009 11:30 AM, Is It Open Enquiry Service wrote:

Dear Josh,

I am writing to you to check the legal status of your '2000 U.S. Census: 1 Billion RDF Triples' data - and to test our new 'Is it open?' service on CKAN.

I am writing to seek clarification of the 'openness' [1] of this data:

http://www.rdfabout.com/demo/census/

I wasn't able to find an explicit statement that the data was open such as a reference to an open knowledge or data license [2] so I'm writing to find out what the exact situation is. In particular we would like to know whether the material can be made available under an open license of some kind.

Thank you very much for your time and I look forward to receiving your response.

Regards,

Jonathan Gray

[1]http://www.opendefinition.org/1.0/ [2]http://www.opendefinition.org/licenses/ -- Sent by "Is It Open?" (http://isitopen.ckan.net/about) A service which helps scholars (and others) to request information

> > about the status and licensing of information.

Sent by "Is It Open?" (http://isitopen.ckan.net/about) A service which helps scholars (and others) to request information about the status and licensing of information.

Message:

To: Is It Open Enquiry Service <isitopen@okf....

Subject: Re: Data Openness Enquiry

Date: Tue Oct 13 17:30:07 2009

Status: Response

Honestly, I just looked at the script that generates the data, saw what license I chose for it two years ago, and just went with that. Consistency & laziness.

  • Josh Tauberer
  • CivicImpulse

http://razor.occams.info http://www.civicimpulse.com

"Yields falsehood when preceded by its quotation! Yields falsehood when preceded by its quotation!" Achilles to Tortoise (in "Godel, Escher, Bach" by Douglas Hofstadter)

On 10/13/2009 10:30 AM, Is It Open Enquiry Service wrote:

Thanks for your reply Josh! I wonder if I could ask you what your reason is for using a non-commercial license, as opposed to a license which is open (as in opendefinition.org)?

I also wonder if you have seen the legal tools to make data open at:

http://www.opendatacommons.org/

Warm regards,

Jonathan

Hey,

I've now added a note that it is CC-BY-NC-SA.

  • Josh Tauberer
  • CivicImpulse

http://razor.occams.info http://www.civicimpulse.com

"Yields falsehood when preceded by its quotation! Yields falsehood when preceded by its quotation!" Achilles to Tortoise (in "Godel, Escher, Bach" by Douglas Hofstadter)

On 10/12/2009 11:30 AM, Is It Open Enquiry Service wrote:

Dear Josh,

I am writing to you to check the legal status of your '2000 U.S. Census: 1 Billion RDF Triples' data - and to test our new 'Is it open?' service on CKAN.

I am writing to seek clarification of the 'openness' [1] of this data: 

http://www.rdfabout.com/demo/census/

I wasn't able to find an explicit statement that the data was open such as a reference to an open knowledge or data license [2] so I'm writing to find out what the exact situation is. In particular we would like to know whether the material can be made available under an open license of some kind.

Thank you very much for your time and I look forward to receiving your response.

Regards,

Jonathan Gray

[1]http://www.opendefinition.org/1.0/ [2]http://www.opendefinition.org/licenses/ -- Sent by "Is It Open?" (http://isitopen.ckan.net/about) A service which helps scholars (and others) to request information about the status and licensing of information. -- Sent by "Is It Open?" (http://isitopen.ckan.net/about) A service which helps scholars (and others) to request information about the status and licensing of information.