OKF request for clarification on openness of Mendeley's data

Enquiry Status: Resolved (Open)

Started: Mon Aug 30 17:42:46 2010
ID: 43bcbda2-30ef-486b-9c52-4378ede75c7d

Message:

To: ian.mulvany@mendel....

Subject: OKF request for clarification on openness of Mendeley's data

Date: Mon Aug 30 17:42:46 2010

Status: Sent

Dear Mr Mulvany,

[If you are not the right person to address, could you please let us know to whom we should direct our questions?]

There has been much public interest in your announcement of an Open API for access to Mendeley Data. It is currently unclear to us what degree of Openness actually attaches to Mendeley's data (see PMR's concern, expressed as a recent comment on the Mendeley Blog [1]).

We ask these questions through the Open Knowledge Foundation's IsItOpen(Data) service (http://www.isitopendata.org) which allows both requesters and responders to publish and preserve the correspondence. This saves time and confusion as it serves as a reference point in the future.

We'd be grateful for answers to the following:

  1. Which of your data are Open according to the OKF Definition [2]? i.e. The data is available without discrimination against users, groups, or fields of endeavor, and can be openly republished without further permission.

  2. Is it possible to access all your data as Open?

  3. If not, how is the Open subset defined and what is its effective size?

  4. What mechanism exists for downloading the Open subset in total?

  5. Are you willing to label your Open data with the OKF's "Open Data" button (http://opendefinition.org/button) as a means of clarifying to users the Open parts of your material?

We recognize that the Mendeley software is not currently free/open source. Should you choose to work towards an Open Service in the future, we hope you will consider making fully Open (see the OKF's Open Service definition, http://www.opendefinition.org/ossd/).

Because of the current interest we hope that it will be easy to answer these questions in a rapid manner.

Sincerely,

Heather Piwowar, [email protected]

Peter Murray-Rust, [email protected]

on behalf of the Open Knowledge Foundation, http://okfn.org/

[1] http://www.mendeley.com/blog/open-access/researcher-which-side-of-history/#comment-108642

[2] http://www.opendefinition.org/1.0/

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Message:

To: Is It Open Enquiry Service <isitopen@okfn.org>, peter murray-rust <pm286@cam.....

Subject: Re: OKF request for clarification on openness of Mendeley's data

Date: Thu Sep 2 19:30:05 2010

Status: Response

Hi Peter,

It was great talking to you today,

In response to the OKF request data available through our api is now explicitly available as CC-BY (http://dev.mendeley.com/docs/license) and is available without discrimination. We don't actually know what the precise size of the data is that is available. Personal data about our users, such as which papers a person has in their library, is not available, nor will it be.

We are debating making data resources such as data dumps of parts of our data available, but for the moment we are constrained by both our uncertainty about the potential business cost/benefit of doing so, and we are constrained by plain old resource. We are putting our resources into our API and will be extending it over the coming months. We will continue to think about this, and we really look forward to continuing the conversation with yourself and the OKF.

  • Ian

On 30 August 2010 18:30, Is It Open Enquiry Service <isitopen.okfn.org> wrote:

Dear Mr Mulvany,

[If you are not the right person to address, could you please let us know to whom we should direct our questions?]

There has been much public interest in your announcement of an Open API for access to Mendeley Data.  It is currently unclear to us what degree of Openness actually attaches to Mendeley's data (see PMR's concern, expressed as a recent comment on the Mendeley Blog [1]).

We ask these questions through the Open Knowledge Foundation's IsItOpen(Data) service (http://www.isitopendata.org) which allows both requesters and responders to publish and preserve the correspondence. This saves time and confusion as it serves as a reference point in the future.

We'd be grateful for answers to the following:

  1.   Which of your data are Open according to the OKF Definition [2]?   i.e. The data is available without discrimination against users, groups, or fields of endeavor, and can be openly republished without further permission.

  2.  Is it possible to access all your data as Open?

  3.  If not, how is the Open subset defined and what is its effective size?

  4.  What mechanism exists for downloading the Open subset in total?

  5.  Are you willing to label your Open data with the OKF's "Open Data" button (http://opendefinition.org/button) as a means of clarifying to users the Open parts of your material?

We recognize that the Mendeley software is not currently free/open source.  Should you choose to work towards an Open Service in the future, we hope you will consider making fully Open (see the OKF's Open Service definition, http://www.opendefinition.org/ossd/).

Because of the current interest we hope that it will be easy to answer these questions in a rapid manner.

Sincerely,

Heather Piwowar, [email protected]

Peter Murray-Rust, [email protected]

on behalf of the Open Knowledge Foundation, http://okfn.org/

[1] http://www.mendeley.com/blog/open-access/researcher-which-side-of-history/#comment-108642

[2] http://www.opendefinition.org/1.0/

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Message:

To: ian.mulvany@mendel....

Subject: Re: OKF request for clarification on openness of Mendeley's data

Date: Wed Sep 8 13:53:58 2010

Status: Sent

Dear Ian,

Thank you for your rapid and clear response to our enquiry. Thank you for also taking this opportunity to make the API data license explicit on Mendeley's website.

Your email response is publicly available on the IsItOpenData website: http://www.isitopendata.org/enquiry/view/43bcbda2-30ef-486b-9c52-4378ede75c7d/

If you ever have further comment, please feel free to contact me at hpiwowar gmail com and I will post updates to the IsItOpenData site as appropriate.

Sincerely,

Heather Piwowar and Peter Murray-Rust on behalf of OKF.

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